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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If all you've got for evidence on any of these theories is YouTube, rather than a credible source (study/journal/periodical/newspaper) I'm likely to believe that you don't know what you're talking about.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So someone can't use YouTube for thesis citations??!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kryptonite wrote:
So someone can't use YouTube for thesis citations??!



it all depends on the institution...


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kso wrote:
common understanding


Common is exactly that...didn't common scientific understanding
Hold that the earth was flat?
without question there has been otherworldly influence upon
our culture, civilization, and technology...to think otherwise
is well, common. Commonality leads to suburbs, strollers, and american idol,
you can keep that shit kso...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah whatevs. giant leaping assumptions and opinion held that the world was flat. "Without question?" pffft. Evidence?

commonality w/o evidence also leads to ppl believing ppl rising from the dead. your point is moot.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH9UvnrARf8
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and then maybe you can figure out the significance of this :

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ie=UTF-8&ion=1#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&site=webhp&q=murchison%20meteorite&oq=&aq=&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=&pbx=1&fp=7a6cc4b21c876926&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.,cf.osb&biw=1024&bih=619
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kso wrote:
yeah whatevs. giant leaping assumptions and opinion held that the world was flat. "Without question?" pffft. Evidence?


yeah whatevs?
very scientific response...that being said, what was the commonly held idea at the time?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kso wrote:
and then maybe you can figure out the significance of this :

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ie=UTF-8&ion=1#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&site=webhp&q=murchison%20meteorite&oq=&aq=&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=&pbx=1&fp=7a6cc4b21c876926&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.,cf.osb&biw=1024&bih=619



idc, hence why i'm not a scientist and don't hold science sacrosanct and believe in the power of the ovary and change...nothing else has remained constant thru recorded time, save these two truths.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/09/110923-neutrinos-speed-of-light-particles-cern-physics-einstein-science/
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/19/science/space/neutrino-finding-is-confirmed-in-second-experiment-opera-scientists-say.html
nothing is concrete, most certainly not current nor previous scientific models and "facts."
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't hold science sacrosanct either because as within science, any reasonable and hopefully unbiased scientist, as would i, would happily and willfully completely change our position with reliable and verifiable evidence.

Unfortunately, the article you provide about the particles moving faster than light has been retracted due to a hardware glitch at CERN/LHC that provided these results.

I looooooove the Jesus debate because i looooooove how many other external cultures across the world that predate Christianity are completely disregarded in the hierarchy of this discussion with regards to natural history vs the convo of biblical history.

ie: Gobekli Tepe in Turkey

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ie=UTF-8&ion=1#hl=en&site=webhp&sa=X&ei=j_iCT5LCJIXO9QTx9PnzBw&sqi=2&ved=0CBkQBSgB&q=gobekli+tepe&spell=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.,cf.osb&fp=7a6cc4b21c876926&ion=1&biw=1024&bih=619


this joint predates Christianity's New Testament stories by almost 9000 years. Predates stonehenge by about 2000 years. It predates early civilizations and kingdoms. As far as our current archaeological and anthropological understandings, this is the FIRST evidence of religion/religious practice coming out of 3.5 billion years of evolution.


To put it into perspective:
Earliest measured existence of life on earth = 3.4 billion years ago.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/aug/21/fossil-microbes-western-australia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller%E2%80%93Urey_experiment
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_evolutionary_history_of_life
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stromatolite

I personally discovered sea based marine fossils in the middle of Kentucky = 420–300 million years ago [Devonian crinoids]
Age of the dinosaurs = 250 million years – 65 million years.
Large dinosaurs go extinct– 65 -70 million years ago.
Dawn of early primates = 55-65 million years ago
First evidence of stone tools = 3 million –2.4 million years ago
Dawn of early “man” walking upright = 1.2 – 1.8 million years ago [homo-erectus]
Evidence of man’s controlled use of fire = 1.7 million years ago
Neanderthals [cavemen] = 600,000-40,000 years ago
Advent of modern humans [homo-sapiens]= Anatomically modern humans originating from Africa about 200,000 years ago, reaching full behavioral modernity around 50,000 years ago.
ie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatomically_modern_humans
Migration of humans into the AMERICAS = 40,000 – 12,000 years ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_human_migrations

Man’s first evidence of painted art (Lascaux Cave painting in france) = 25,000-30,000 years ago
http://www.lascaux.culture.fr/?lng=en#/fr/02_00.xml
http://www.lascaux.culture.fr/?lng=en#/fr/02_02_01.xml

Oldest known temple [to date] = 11,000 years old
Stonehenge = 10,000 years old
Dawn of Agriculture = 10000-7000 years ago
First kingdoms and empires of Mesopotamia = 5000 years ago
Pyramids = 4500 years ago
Earliest written symbols = 3200-3400 years ago
Earliest writing systems = 2600 years ago
Old testament= 2500 years ago
Beginning of the start of our Gregorian Calendar = 2012 years ago
New testament = 1900 years ago

200 years ago we didn’t know ANY of this.

And most of this based on simple observation which at its base is what science is.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, we just re-wrote human production on the level of some Matrix style ish

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/scientists-rewrite-rules-of-human-reproduction-7624708.html

so I ask, at what point is there outside influence?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jkfunkee___ wrote:
kso wrote:
yeah whatevs. giant leaping assumptions and opinion held that the world was flat. "Without question?" pffft. Evidence?


yeah whatevs?
very scientific response...that being said, what was the commonly held idea at the time?


again, nice scientific repsonse...what was the commonly held idea?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oops...
thanks science.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/millions-at-risk-as-main-malaria-drug-loses-potency-7622351.html

my only point is this: what we "know" today can (and usually is) be proven false tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do i have to address this? there is a huge difference between unfounded ideas versus verifiable evidence. you have no argument here.

I asked for your specific evidence.

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kso wrote:
yeah whatevs. giant leaping assumptions and opinion held that the world was flat. "Without question?" pffft. Evidence?


yeah whatevs?
very scientific response...that being said, what was the commonly held idea at the time?


again, nice scientific repsonse...what was the commonly held idea?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jkfunkee___ wrote:
oops...
thanks science.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/millions-at-risk-as-main-malaria-drug-loses-potency-7622351.html

my only point is this: what we "know" today can (and usually is) be proven false tomorrow.


so 50-60 years of mosquitoes building up a tolerance to our designed toxin is an argument? same thing happens in the evolution of bacteria. yay.

And i understand "what we know today" Like i said any reasonable scientist would change the stance based on verifiable evidence.

State your grounds of verifiable evidence for a prime mover and/or its ancestral lineage if you have it.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kso wrote:
Why do i have to address this?


no one is twisting your arm.
the question was related to "commonly held scientific belief."
obvs what was considered science at that time doesn't pass muster today, but it was science nonetheless.
as i stated: i believe in only two things: the ovary and change as those are the only constants...all else is supposition.
you finally got to my point (i think) which is what we hold true today is disproven tomorrow.
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